Awesome news… our rotary shipment has just arrived!
We have some processing still to do with them. Adding our custom designed Power and Encoder cable as well as a special stepper cover.
We’ll have these shipping out to pre-order customers next week.
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Ooooooo I like this!
how long before the next batch comes in. Don’t want to order needlessly
We ordered a large enough batch so there are still a dozen or so available to those interested.
I’m soldering up some power adapters that’ll let folks plug our cable into their power plug for the rotary. This plus the stepper covers and cables and we should be shipping before end of week.
So, this will work with my Onefinity Elite Woodworker? Can I use the MASSO 24v as the power supply? Is it plug in and go or do I have other steps to take first?
Jay
Oh yes indeed. I was going to send something out about this later
When it comes to our conversion kit or our cnc machine… it is perfectly plug-n-play. Our power box has the proper plugs built-in as well as our version of the Masso Touch controller.
When it comes to other brand machines then there must be adapters to make it work since no one is currently using our fancy aircraft connectors. In the case of 1f… there are two that will come with the rotary free as a thank you to all the pre-order customers. Once it is no longer in pre-order status, there will be a small up-charge for the two adapters.
There are 2 things to account for when adapting our rotary to another machine brand.
- is the power adapter that converts our 2-pin aircraft connector into the “extra” molex power connector for 36v power on the production machine.
- is the actual inlet cable needed. This is our special press-in aircraft connector. Just like with our ATC, the Rotary has an inlet with long cables. This way, if you have our inlets panel installed or our snap-in panel, you can wire it into the A spot in your machine.
We’ll release more information on wiring later.
@Chris has been using the rotary for a little bit on his 1f-elite using the adapters and it’s working wonderfully. He’s been doing some very awesome things with it.
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@Daniel wonderful…I’ll place my order now.
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@Daniel @Chris
Hey guys…just received my rotary…woo hoo. Where can I find the information on wiring this up to my Onefinity Elite Woodworker?
Jay
I don’t think I’ll be of much help getting it wired up based on what I had to do vs what you have to do.
@Daniel
So, I pulled the stepper cover off and identified which wire goes to which pin-out. But, what I can’t figure out is do I graft these pins onto the already existing wires going into the A Axis connector on the MASSO G3 Touch (Onefinity Elite)? Or, do I pull those out and replace with the wires from your connector?
@Daniel,
I could also use a bit of help on configuration for the MASSO (F1 screen). The Rotary stepper motor is configured for 10,000 Pulse/Rev. How do I get the correct value into MASSO to drive it?
What is this motor set to ratio-wise? In other words, what multiplier to I use to populate MASSO with? Is it 6:1? Something else? Couldn’t find it on the Rotary anywhere.
Thanks,
Jay
6:1 yes.
Personally my motor is set for 10k ppr so my settings in masso are 60k.
a way to test this, is mark with a pencil on the part that moves around, then use something like tin foil, and a tape on the stationary part. then command a rotation of 3600 degrees. Any amount that it is off divide by 10, and there you go. It should line up pretty good when all said and done, but remember any deviation is 10x, so 1/16" is nothing to worry about but 5 inches is something to
These are my personal settings.
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I’m sorry, been preoccupied setting up our booth.
@Chris thank you so much for helping @MstrODstr out with whatever info you can share here. Perhaps sharing a photo of the inlet wiring into the G3?
I know we’ll be removing the 1f inlet for the rotary encoder… and replacing it with our special aircraft connector inlet. The 4 encoder wires (yellow, white, green, orange) are needed to be wired into the “A” axis. Then there’s the “Enable” red wire which needs to be plugged into power. The black wire (from our inlet) is an alarm. It’s not technically required and can be left unwired, IMO.
Either during a free-time here or first thing next week I will be recording the rotary installation.
While here i can only “talk” to the differences between our Dominator/Conversion controller wiring and 1f’s. But when i’m back in front of my 1f, i’ll be sure to wire up the rotary and film the whole thing so it is extremely clear.
I’ve started the KB here: Rotary - PwnCNC
For all of the info i gather for wiring up our rotary for other brand machines, as well as information for using it with our Dominator or Conversion kits.
Update: Added additional information to the inlet kb article as to how you’ll be wiring it up.
Perhaps my blue, is your orange?!
How I did the enable wiring. I tried to fit it in with the other wires, but wasn’t having any luck.
Alarm was find an opening, and put it there. Mine is in Input 23 since that’s where the other alarms are as well.
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Correct… In many of our inlets… blue and orange are interchangable. The production rotary inlet has orange and not blue.
Oh and yes… that enable-wiring would work just fine.
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Thanks so much Chris…you rock
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@Daniel @Chris
Thanks so much guys. I’ve got it wired up and working just fine. For now, I don’t plan on disconnecting the rotary (I’ll just move it aside if needed); so, I connected up the motor alarm as well.
@Chris Which way do you have the rotary spin when cutting with Vectric? If looking down the long axis of the rotary with the belt in front and tail stock in back, which way should it spin CW or CCW?
I figured out what the wires were that were already in the A Axis connector. I had wired up the JTech Rotary over a year ago only to realize that it wasn’t going to work for what I wanted and I quickly abandoned that…completely forgot that I had wired that up. I have now labeled most all of the cabling inside my MASSO as it is getting pretty full.
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@MstrODstr, I have it parallel to the X Axis and place it in a known location when the time comes to use it. The headstock on the right hand side, and A+ spins to the rear, A- spins to the front. I don’t think it really matters if thats how you do it or not because your designs are going to go a full 360 (or encompass a full 360.
You asked about vectric, you’ll probably need a post processor found here:
Vectric VCarve and Vectric Aspire MASSO Post Processors
I edited the post processor to include some information to make it dummy proof. I made it change to a work offset of G55 which I have XYZ zeroed, then at the end, I changed it back to G54. To get my XYZ zero, I lined up for X to where the spindle will go down but the tool holder will not come into contact with the rotary. Zeroed X. For YZ I took a piece of aluminum rod of known dimension, and adjusted the probe so that I could get to the center point of those two. So, jog the machine down, adjust the offset to the radius of my aluminum rod in both Y/Z, then probe for y. I put the magnet on the spindle and held the block against the roatary. Check first if that would have conductivity. Jog up. go to y0, (g0y0), then probed down for Z.
Remove the rod and verify its there with g0x0y0z0. If you don’t have an aluminum rod, you can measure the center point with the bar that comes with it to tighten the clamps down, and use that, then a long nail or something to tighten the clamps down. With these settings, I never have to rezero Z, as long as I keep doing it from the center of the cylinder axis.
I also had added G0X0Y0 to the beginning to further dummy proof the post processor… you’ll find out why in due time if you don’t.
I made it easy on myself by copying all the post processors I’d use in the MyPostP folder located here:
C:\ProgramData\Vectric\Aspire\V11.5\My_PostP
In my situation, I use this:
Masso_Wrap_Y2A_ATC_inch
You might want to review this document:
Rotary Machining and Wrapping
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