MASSO's footgun locked and loaded. Will they pull the trigger?

Join the discussion and wild speculation about MASSO’s decision to start charging for software updates here.

Only read the first page but their sentiments echo mine.
If the people could change sonic, well there’s hope!!

Well, I doubt that we can change it. That said I have no intention of paying. The number 1 reason I chose 1finity was for the Masso G3.
It seems we should have access to updates. The updates take forever to come out, and even then they are glitchy.
Might just jump out of the Hobby at this point.

From PwnCNC’s message about this that’s pinned to the top of the main site, they seem to think this subscription is limited to the smart phone app or other web connected features. I find that hard to reconcile with this bit from MASSO’s email that explicitly calls out “MASSO G3 updates”.

I don’t see how that could be read as anything other then requiring a subscription for even the basic controller updates.

I really hope PwnCNC’s interpretation is correct, but It seems unlikely.

My interpretation is that it’s all future software updates and, after April 15, all new controllers sold need the sub to get the initial s/w – meaning no sub = no access to the myworkshop web site.

I don’t think it’s new software because the controllers come with the software, the registering it just ties that serial to you.

I do believe it’s their intent to have all updates subject and restricted, so what you have, is what you have

Itd be hilarious if 5.100 comes out april 16

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My controller, bought from Pwn a few weeks ago, absolutely did not some with software. I needed to download it from mygarage, load it onto a USB drive and then install it before it would do anything. It stayed on the “gimme firmware” page at power on until I did so.

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Hey all,

now everybody understood what it practically means, the difference between Free and Open Software & Open hardware, and Proprietary Software & Proprietary Hardware :slight_smile:

See also

  • LinuxCNC
    LinuxCNC evolved from the NIST’s Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) project (See EMC History).

  • LinuxCNC old-fashioned was yesterday. LinuxCNC as a control system today!

    Sebastian End, who builds his own CNC machines, reports of his bad experiences with Eding CNC, Mach3, Estlcam and other CNC controllers, and why LinuxCNC is the only serious option (because it runs absolutely stable and the Linux kernel is a real-time operating system). Then he goes through LinuxCNC’s new QtPyVCP graphical control interface (screenshots of the QtPyVCP GUI) step by step (in German) (You may activate auto-translated subtitles with some errors in the result).

    His CNC controller hardware is made with the easy-to-plug-in MESA I/O cards for PCs. When using these cards, the CNC commands are not executed by the PC, but are transferred to the MESA I/O card within a millisecond and then executed by a FPGA located on the card. Therefore, such cards can not only be connected via PCI or PCI Express, but also simply via the PC’s Ethernet interface. Therefore, the PC that is used as CNC controller does not need to be particularly powerful. So if you then add some stepper motor driver modules, may it be for open-loop, closed-loop, or even servo motors on your axes, and a power supply, you have a complete CNC controller hardware.

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We are going to look into this.

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I’m sure that is why it has been delayed so long

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good news, they came to their senses

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WOOHOOO!!!

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YAY!! The customers have spoken!

Interesting that my Masso Link stopped working on April 15th?

Oh that is odd. Is this for a controller purchased/registered through us? Reach out to support@pwncnc.com and we’ll do some investigation with their myWorkshop software and/or reach out to them directly and figure out what’s going on.

Thanks. My MASSO came with my 1F. I’m seeing on the Masso site others have been experiencing the “connecting” whirling wheel of infinite pause recently as well. Seems like the Link software is pretty temperamental. Worked just fine until I tried it on the 16th. Changed nothing on my end.

@cphippen

Did you set your router to keep the MASSO controller as a static IP? It might have changed as your router handles DCHP. From the F2 screen you should see “WiFi” as a button in the top right of the screen. If you tap on that, it will bring up the WiFi settings menu. What IP address is currently assigned on that screen? Does it match up with the ip address your Masso link software on your computer is trying to connect with?

Thanks for all the thoughts. I’ve confirmed on the MASSO that I’m connecting to a static IP and it is the same one that MASSO link is trying to connect too. I can ping the IP from the computer and get an appropriate response. I can even see the MASSO from my phone with the Workshop application (even though I didn’t pay for it). Just can’t get the Link program to “connect”.
Curious, I have noticed that the MASSO connects at 2.4 GHz and the computer at 5 GHz but both to the same network. Think it has always been that way (when it worked!) but I never noticed

Are you connecting from a Mac or a PC? I was reading a couple weeks ago (on the MASSO forum) someone was having issues connecting via their Mac and running the file from its package contents seemed to help with a network permissions issue that showed up after a recent Mac software update. Just tossing possible things out. Sorry you are having trouble connecting. I assume the versions of MASSO link and the Masson software on the display are compatible? I know you needed to jump to v2.12 for 5.07 & 5.09.