I am having trouble setting configuring the ATC settings in the Masso so that the ISO20 collect is picked up and the draw bar if fully closed. I’ve experimented with any incremental Z height. The collect is picked up but not fully seated, slight tug by hand releases the collet. If I lower the Z to accomplish the pickup, there is a loud slam. At that setting the changer will not drop or unload the collet. Looking for advice, do I need to make adjustments to PE… I can with the push button changer manually insert the collet so it will seat.
I’m not exactly following what’s going on, if your pick and place height is not low enough, but lowering it, causes it to slam down violently, then why is there no middle ground.
If I understand correctly, there is one setting in the Masso for Z when the tooling is changed, same position for dropping a tool and loading a new one. I have used the step function and tried incrementally to find the “middle” ground. I’ve not been successful. I find it take a very low Z value to load the collet and it does so with a bang. When testing the tool change function, the spindle will not drop the collet with those settings.
Is there a way to control different tool unload height from the tool pick up height?
Is it expected to have the “slam” when loading a tool?
I appreciate the quick replies, I think from your questions I’m not describing things well. I am using all the same tool racks. They are the same height and in line along left Y axis. I have worked at length using the step Z function at a .001 inch increments to find the correct height for tool drop and pick up. When I referenced the “slam” it’s not from the spindle hitting the rack when it descends. In order to get the spindle to pick up a tool I have lower the spindle to writhin a very short distance from bottoming out on the top of the ISO020. I will have to measure but it’s within 1mm of touching the tooling. When it picks up the tool it’s a loud slap sound. At this height, it will not drop a tool its too close to the top of the rack it will release and regrab it. I can take a short video and send it might help explain what’s happening.
Ok. Videos do help. Send it to support@pwncnc.com and say you were talking to me on the forum.
I was trying to find a reason, and those are some of them. The inputs not being inverted is another one when they should be, but the z carriage was what i thought you said was slamming, as i couldn’t think of anything else it could be.
I’m also looking thru a straw of my own perspective, another reason videos help.
In your video: include a quick flash of the inputs, then show the linear tool charge 2 screen, then execute a tool change or 2. At least one with the camera on masso, and another with the camera on the tool changer. To change a tool, go to the mdi screen and it’s T#M6 where # is the tool number. It may be your slot number, but its not a requirement.
@Rbsmith35 asked me to update the post.
The inputs were not inverted as they need to be.
The reason they need to be inverted is because masso is PNP, but our motors are NPN. When it drops the tool, it reads as the tool is there according to masso and doesnt proceed to the next step.
Thanks for the quick response and fantastic support. It didn’t take but a couple minutes to have everything working after you explained what I had wrong in the setup.
Thanks again.
Rod
Hello Paultommy, Chris had me do the following on the F1 setup screen for inputs 7 and 8.
F1 Screen and highlight the inputs then hit spacebar
It needs to say
Input 7 - tool change 1 - yes
Input 8 - tool change 2 - yes
Once this was done, I was able to complete the configuration of the tooling and use the commands TxM6 where x is the tool number to pickup and drop tools. Operates very smoothly.
Chris explains above why this needs to be setup this way to work with the PWNCNC spindle.
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Saving your settings doesn’t have anything to do with your settings taking effect though. It only gives you a human readable text file or a Masso file you can import to restore them. I can’t think of any that require a power cycle. EDIT: at the very least changing from portrait to landscape does require power cycle.
You do need to hit the save button if it’s a pop up dialog box if the option to save is there, otherwise the changes will be reverted to what they were before you entered the section. Inverting the inputs (or outputs) does not have this requirement.
